Damon is good. But he’s definitely not centrist on these issues. You can hear it throughout but the one that was glaring was the critique of the showing age verification to see explicit content. I was born in 1993, seeing that stuff online has been normal my entire life. I am not a social conservative and don’t really care.
However, I have now heard 10+ people discuss this decision. All of them in some way or another have mentioned “it’s illegal for an underage kid to see this stuff in person” if only to discuss how this is different and that argument doesn’t apply. I don’t know how Damon doesn’t even address that while critiquing the decision and just saying outright it was bad.
I mean still to this day if a 16 year old goes into some old ass shop and tries to buy a Playboy, he’s going to have to show an ID and get denied. I’ve listened to arguments about how the internet is different and I am convinced by many until I go back to the root. When I was growing up you could get internet material. However it was recent enough that there were older brothers of friends that were just a few years older that would say stuff like “we had to steal magazines. Or we had to get them from friends older brothers” and stuff like that. It switched basically in my lifetime. And when I think about that switching point it seems perfectly clear if the methods/technology existed and lawmakers understood the technology at the time, there is no way in any world that explicit material would have ever been allowed to minors online at any point. Democrats in 1990 wouldn’t have allowed it let alone republicans.
I don’t know how Damon goes through that case and doesn’t even mention that. Once again if only to refute it. Seems like a glaring omission.
In the first wave of the internet in the 90s porn sites were scared about the legal consequences of showing minors porn, so the status quo was for porn sites to only show blurred stuff, and they all said you had to give them a credit card number as "age verification" before you got to see the goods (since you can only legally get a credit card after 18), and you'd only be charged $1 (of course in the fine print there would be a $30 charge after a week). This later evolved into "age verification passes" which would let you sample various porn sites (with a hidden upcharge later on of course).
It seems to me porn producers were happy with this arrangement, but it broke down with the rise of porn aggregators/thieves (pornhub etc).
So it’s a bit more complicated. It wasn’t that politicians of either party missed this. The problem was more “what can we do about it?” This issue came before legislatures and the courts in the late 90s/early aughts. Laws were proposed and some passed.
Outside of probably some fringe intelligences, there was not a groundswell of support tor making it easier for minors to view hard core pornography. The problem was developing a method, which passed constitutional muster, that allowed age gauging without substantially burdening adults. With video stores (back in the Pleistocene) and magazines, it’s easy - request ID. The problem online was that age gauging technology that threaded this needle didn’t exist. Websites required you to put in your DOB…which taught a generation to quickly subtract 18 from the current year.
I don’t think anyone foresaw how awash the internet would become with hard core porn, and how ubiquitous and normalized it is. It’s very difficult to not come across it on non-porn websites with regularity. I think the porn websites, like Pornhub, and their political allies have been very stupid in not being more proactive about working to come up with a solution, rather than just blocking access in certain states.
The normalization of porn is proving to have a lot of negative downstream effects, and the online porn industry is not exactly the best actor. Then again, neither is the traditional porn industry. Pornhub has had a number of truly horrendous scandals. There was the “girls do porn” scandal, which was promoted on the site, and it turned out that girls were coerced. The New York Times also had a series of exposes and op-eds about a lot of underage content on the side that wasn’t removed despite multiple requests. Visa removed support until Pornhub removed something like a quarter of all the content on the website a few years back.
He's confused the two movies then. The very first thing he said about the movie he was thinking of was that it was set in Times Square. None of "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains" takes place in NYC.
Sarah Isgur of The Dispatch's Advisory Opinions podcast would be a great guest to talk about the Supreme Court. Maybe her guest cohost David French as well, but he's already been on before, and Sarah never has.
I thought Damon’s discussion about the birthright citizenship case (that wasn’t really about birthright citizenship) was much more easily absorbed than the one on Advisory Opinions. Sarah Isgur gets so into the weeds, it’s very hard for me as a non-lawyer to follow sometimes. She occasionally remembers to back it up for the non-lawyers, but it’s mostly rapid-fire legalese. Maybe she’d have more of a reason to dumb it down for a TFC audience. 😜
I think the tl/Dr is this finding was about universal injunctions which universally agreed there's a problem and this is attempting a moderate solution.
Birthright will survive but it will be adjudicated on the normal schedule and not the emergency docket. Unfortunately these things just take time
In Spain the ZM types are called “rojos de salon” which is the equivalent of Cafe Communists.
The enraging thing about this creature possibly being mayor of NYC is that the people who propelled his primary win are the Rojos de Salon from Brooklyn who probably are not not from NYC to begin with and will most likely not be here after they inflict this nightmare on us.
Among those delirious with joy over the NYC Dem primary results is serious journalist Taylor Lorenz, whose instagram account has resembled nothing so much as a Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper from the early 90's since Tuesday night, complete with sparkly dolphins leaping through rainbows etc. I may need to uninstall that app until Nov (or permanently depending on the final outcome)
I imagine her bedroom walls being lined posters of her celebrity crushes like a teen girl in the 90s or 2000s, but this time around it’s Zohran Mamdani and Luigi Mangioni on the posters instead of James Van Der Beek or N Sync.
It’s amazing how much things have changed. Skrmetti came out correctly - regulating medical care and what children can do with their bodies is well within a state legislatures power. You need to be 18 to get a tattoo in California, I believe. The response was not to gas up the GLAAD truck. Maybe on blue sky, there were hysterics…but it’s blue sky. The trans kid experiment - which is what it was, an experiment on kids - seems to be over. I’m waiting until all the most annoying pre-Elon blue checks from 3 years ago claim they oppose it from the beginning.
That group will almost never admit to error. Either they’ll go down with the boat or move and try to memory hole their monstrous stupidity. I mean … to call yourself a modern person of the West and espouse gibberish like someone being born in the wrong body, and it’s apparently been happening at an alarming rate, is just 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️.
lol! Right. There is a lot to be said about how secular western society basically institutionalized a lot of Christianity without the whole God thing, but that is really on the nose. A physically incorporeal essence, that’s real, that’s connected but separate from your body, and is the real you! That is your gender. Congratulations - you have created the soul.
A child or early teen with a lot of issues, like autism, claims she is in fact a boy to a doctor. Occam’s razor, “do no harm,” the material reality of the universe, and lawsuit avoidance would lead me to believe that maybe therapy and counseling is the best first line treatment. Apparently the smart money was on hormone treatment with lifelong medical
Implications and mastectomies.
I do expect, that even in the “sanctuary states,” like California, this can’t continue. California can declare itself what it wants but medical organizations can no longer justify their old guidance. WPATH has beclowned itself, and thanks to legal discovery, their internal decision making was revealed to the world, and it was found wanting. Any half competent medical board or organization can’t ignore that, and so doctor will no longer have that safe harbor in lawsuits.
My money is on memory holing it. Kind of like the satanic panic - surprisingly few career consequences despite destroying a lot of lives.
Blocked & Reported have talked about this, I tend to agree with Katie and add my two cents. Once marriage equality was passed into law we had all these orgs that were set up, and most of society feeling bad/guilty over how the AIDS crises decimated a generation of gay men (though now we can’t acknowledge that it was men). To keep the jobs & the $$$ flowing you pivot to the next ‘cause’ making it equivalent to being gay, you have activists placed in all the corridors of power, and the medical/Pharmaceutical industries are behind you because there’s profit in being kind. Lifelong clients who always ‘need’ something: exogenous estrogen or testosterone, FFS, phalloplasties etc. Who can say no to that business model?
One thing to consider regarding LA riots, maybe it didn't continue a la Portland because the national guard was sent in. It seemed to resolve pretty quickly after that
“I’ve been racist against Russians my whole life and it’s not gonna stop now!” - Matt Welch and every GenXer I know.
I blame Rocky IV for this. Took me years to trust Dolph Lundgren after that.
Damon is good. But he’s definitely not centrist on these issues. You can hear it throughout but the one that was glaring was the critique of the showing age verification to see explicit content. I was born in 1993, seeing that stuff online has been normal my entire life. I am not a social conservative and don’t really care.
However, I have now heard 10+ people discuss this decision. All of them in some way or another have mentioned “it’s illegal for an underage kid to see this stuff in person” if only to discuss how this is different and that argument doesn’t apply. I don’t know how Damon doesn’t even address that while critiquing the decision and just saying outright it was bad.
I mean still to this day if a 16 year old goes into some old ass shop and tries to buy a Playboy, he’s going to have to show an ID and get denied. I’ve listened to arguments about how the internet is different and I am convinced by many until I go back to the root. When I was growing up you could get internet material. However it was recent enough that there were older brothers of friends that were just a few years older that would say stuff like “we had to steal magazines. Or we had to get them from friends older brothers” and stuff like that. It switched basically in my lifetime. And when I think about that switching point it seems perfectly clear if the methods/technology existed and lawmakers understood the technology at the time, there is no way in any world that explicit material would have ever been allowed to minors online at any point. Democrats in 1990 wouldn’t have allowed it let alone republicans.
I don’t know how Damon goes through that case and doesn’t even mention that. Once again if only to refute it. Seems like a glaring omission.
In the first wave of the internet in the 90s porn sites were scared about the legal consequences of showing minors porn, so the status quo was for porn sites to only show blurred stuff, and they all said you had to give them a credit card number as "age verification" before you got to see the goods (since you can only legally get a credit card after 18), and you'd only be charged $1 (of course in the fine print there would be a $30 charge after a week). This later evolved into "age verification passes" which would let you sample various porn sites (with a hidden upcharge later on of course).
It seems to me porn producers were happy with this arrangement, but it broke down with the rise of porn aggregators/thieves (pornhub etc).
So it’s a bit more complicated. It wasn’t that politicians of either party missed this. The problem was more “what can we do about it?” This issue came before legislatures and the courts in the late 90s/early aughts. Laws were proposed and some passed.
Outside of probably some fringe intelligences, there was not a groundswell of support tor making it easier for minors to view hard core pornography. The problem was developing a method, which passed constitutional muster, that allowed age gauging without substantially burdening adults. With video stores (back in the Pleistocene) and magazines, it’s easy - request ID. The problem online was that age gauging technology that threaded this needle didn’t exist. Websites required you to put in your DOB…which taught a generation to quickly subtract 18 from the current year.
I don’t think anyone foresaw how awash the internet would become with hard core porn, and how ubiquitous and normalized it is. It’s very difficult to not come across it on non-porn websites with regularity. I think the porn websites, like Pornhub, and their political allies have been very stupid in not being more proactive about working to come up with a solution, rather than just blocking access in certain states.
The normalization of porn is proving to have a lot of negative downstream effects, and the online porn industry is not exactly the best actor. Then again, neither is the traditional porn industry. Pornhub has had a number of truly horrendous scandals. There was the “girls do porn” scandal, which was promoted on the site, and it turned out that girls were coerced. The New York Times also had a series of exposes and op-eds about a lot of underage content on the side that wasn’t removed despite multiple requests. Visa removed support until Pornhub removed something like a quarter of all the content on the website a few years back.
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Highly recommend Green Room (don't watch with your kids, unless they're not squeamish over boxcutter violence!)
Saulnier's previous film, Blue Ruin, is also excellent and is streaming on Amazon.
Blue Ruin is tremendous
Agreed on both counts! Great movies.
the punk rock movie moynihan couldn't name is probably 'ladies & gentlement, the fabulous stains.'
edit: ah, he named it an hour later.
An LA movie directed by Lou Adler and written by Nancy "Slap Shot" Dowd.
No, he's thinking of the movie "Times Square"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081635/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1
i like times square a lot. underseen.
but he said himself later in the episode that he was talking about '...the fabulous stains.'
Ha! As he says. Sorry, I should finish listening before I have a conversation like this.
My bad.
He's confused the two movies then. The very first thing he said about the movie he was thinking of was that it was set in Times Square. None of "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains" takes place in NYC.
yeah, you're right - i 'think' he actually even said that he might be blending two movies together? it's been a few days since i listened to the show.
someone else mentioned 'smithereens,' a movie that has the feelies all over the soundtrack. he might have had that in the mix as well.
i know as a middle-aged guy, everything is kinda blending together in a blur in my memory, so i can understand how these things get mixed up.
punk young diane lane. heck yeah.
Sarah Isgur of The Dispatch's Advisory Opinions podcast would be a great guest to talk about the Supreme Court. Maybe her guest cohost David French as well, but he's already been on before, and Sarah never has.
I thought Damon’s discussion about the birthright citizenship case (that wasn’t really about birthright citizenship) was much more easily absorbed than the one on Advisory Opinions. Sarah Isgur gets so into the weeds, it’s very hard for me as a non-lawyer to follow sometimes. She occasionally remembers to back it up for the non-lawyers, but it’s mostly rapid-fire legalese. Maybe she’d have more of a reason to dumb it down for a TFC audience. 😜
That is what is good about being on with the boys because Welch would 100% ask her to dumb it down. Matt is a man of the people
I think the tl/Dr is this finding was about universal injunctions which universally agreed there's a problem and this is attempting a moderate solution.
Birthright will survive but it will be adjudicated on the normal schedule and not the emergency docket. Unfortunately these things just take time
If it takes time that means fascism wins! ...or so I've been told lol
Yes, this is what I got out of the convo with Damon. I was less sure of my understanding after listening to AO on the topic.
That's too bad. Was it the one on Friday or today? Because today was an excellent short summary
Yesterday’s emergency co-pod with Divided Argument.
Today's is much simpler if you want to give them a second chance. Very enjoyable
Matt buying a replacement car:
https://youtu.be/1HPVQ4FpVlY?si=fa1i_LbeVUx_0bFD
Green Room is fantastic! Jeremy Saulnier (the director) is quietly on an absolutely killer run right now. Matt would love Rebel Ridge.
The talented young fellow doing Mamdani code switching also did a bunch of Vivek videos in the 2024 primary season!
I’ll say it:
Justice for snot green Kia cars!
Deport Kmele “Anchor Baby” Foster! It’s time to take our country back from the not-blacks!
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
My dad lives in the Wallowa Mountains in a tiny town on a deadend highway. Nothing about the film descriptor would surprise me out there.
However, when you brought up Green Room I sincerely thought you'd be talking about the Rajneeshees. Imagine my surprise.
My Uncle Tom had a place on the lake!
Kmele has a place on the lake?? (just kidding, I'm sorry)
Ha! Between that and the Emigrant Lake/Ashland connection, crazy stuff.
In Spain the ZM types are called “rojos de salon” which is the equivalent of Cafe Communists.
The enraging thing about this creature possibly being mayor of NYC is that the people who propelled his primary win are the Rojos de Salon from Brooklyn who probably are not not from NYC to begin with and will most likely not be here after they inflict this nightmare on us.
Among those delirious with joy over the NYC Dem primary results is serious journalist Taylor Lorenz, whose instagram account has resembled nothing so much as a Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper from the early 90's since Tuesday night, complete with sparkly dolphins leaping through rainbows etc. I may need to uninstall that app until Nov (or permanently depending on the final outcome)
I imagine her bedroom walls being lined posters of her celebrity crushes like a teen girl in the 90s or 2000s, but this time around it’s Zohran Mamdani and Luigi Mangioni on the posters instead of James Van Der Beek or N Sync.
Just a few minutes in but, being a woman, the big ruling for me was Skrmetti. I was happy about it.
It’s amazing how much things have changed. Skrmetti came out correctly - regulating medical care and what children can do with their bodies is well within a state legislatures power. You need to be 18 to get a tattoo in California, I believe. The response was not to gas up the GLAAD truck. Maybe on blue sky, there were hysterics…but it’s blue sky. The trans kid experiment - which is what it was, an experiment on kids - seems to be over. I’m waiting until all the most annoying pre-Elon blue checks from 3 years ago claim they oppose it from the beginning.
That group will almost never admit to error. Either they’ll go down with the boat or move and try to memory hole their monstrous stupidity. I mean … to call yourself a modern person of the West and espouse gibberish like someone being born in the wrong body, and it’s apparently been happening at an alarming rate, is just 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️.
lol! Right. There is a lot to be said about how secular western society basically institutionalized a lot of Christianity without the whole God thing, but that is really on the nose. A physically incorporeal essence, that’s real, that’s connected but separate from your body, and is the real you! That is your gender. Congratulations - you have created the soul.
A child or early teen with a lot of issues, like autism, claims she is in fact a boy to a doctor. Occam’s razor, “do no harm,” the material reality of the universe, and lawsuit avoidance would lead me to believe that maybe therapy and counseling is the best first line treatment. Apparently the smart money was on hormone treatment with lifelong medical
Implications and mastectomies.
I do expect, that even in the “sanctuary states,” like California, this can’t continue. California can declare itself what it wants but medical organizations can no longer justify their old guidance. WPATH has beclowned itself, and thanks to legal discovery, their internal decision making was revealed to the world, and it was found wanting. Any half competent medical board or organization can’t ignore that, and so doctor will no longer have that safe harbor in lawsuits.
My money is on memory holing it. Kind of like the satanic panic - surprisingly few career consequences despite destroying a lot of lives.
Blocked & Reported have talked about this, I tend to agree with Katie and add my two cents. Once marriage equality was passed into law we had all these orgs that were set up, and most of society feeling bad/guilty over how the AIDS crises decimated a generation of gay men (though now we can’t acknowledge that it was men). To keep the jobs & the $$$ flowing you pivot to the next ‘cause’ making it equivalent to being gay, you have activists placed in all the corridors of power, and the medical/Pharmaceutical industries are behind you because there’s profit in being kind. Lifelong clients who always ‘need’ something: exogenous estrogen or testosterone, FFS, phalloplasties etc. Who can say no to that business model?
Glad to hear the anti russki sentiment continues.
One thing to consider regarding LA riots, maybe it didn't continue a la Portland because the national guard was sent in. It seemed to resolve pretty quickly after that
Amazon, Walmart, and Kroger will have delivery facilities opening in Hoboken in Q12025 if ZM is elected mayor.
And watch as all the little bodegas close.