My Ecuadorian husband is curious to know the meaning behind Moynihan’s declaration that Filipinos are the Ecuadorians of the Orient - is that a dig at height? He is now walking around the house with exaggerated posture to fully display his 5’9” height.
Reminds me of a Community episode where an Asian lady said Thai people were the Mexicans of Asian when they were debating where to eat
Didn’t even think about the height thing. Reminds me of when my ex, whose fam is from Hong Kong, went to Shanghai with me and he was super disappointed that people weren’t closer to his height (5’5)
Got a few western Chinese mates, mostly from southern China (as is the case for the majority of the diasporas around the world), and all have had a sudden moment of horror when they visit China above the Yangtze and realise they are still short arses...
Agreed. When I think of places in Latin America that stand out for having lots of short people, I think of Guatemala, Bolivia, and the Mexican Yucatán peninsula (I’m 5’5 and even I feel tall in Mérida.) I’ve never thought of Ecuadorians as being notably short for Latin America.
A question a la People magazine- do you guys really like hanging out with each other and bullshitting, or is it all for show? I mean, when the camera stops rolling do you start screaming at each other, and threaten to “ leave the band, and go solo man” (though you all already have kinda done that.). Knee deep in Christmas decorating, and mind wandering…
So happy it’s just the three of you! (I even enjoy the three of you completely sober, so you could try that too, but it might not be as popular with you guys or with the rest of the Fifdom.)
51:48 BTW, my dad was kidnapped by Surinamese rebel leader Ronnie Brunswijk in the 1980s. My dad was soon released under international pressure. Brunswijk would later be convicted of drug trafficking and become the vice president of Suriname.
That AP story contains a surprising number of errors considering how short it is. The surname is "Rogers" without a "d," like Mr. Fred Rogers. The organization is "Mission Aviation Fellowship." Daniel is not from Des Moines, though we lived there for a few months because a supporting church was there.
That news story doesn't contain the most interesting parts IMHO. Rebel leader Ronnie Brunswijk wanted to learn to fly the captured Cessna 206 after his hired pilot left. Fortunately, my dad had just become a Certified Flight Instructor and trained Brunswijk while he was there. He says Ronnie was a quick learner, but there just wasn't enough time. Soon after my dad was released, Brunswijk flew the plane and crashed on landing. Later, a team from the mission organization was able to retrieve it and it was put back into service after repairs. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/163903
Speaking of Heliocentrism, interesting tidbit, Galileo's Copernicus model was accepted enthusiastically by the Catholic church and Urban the VIII was very supportive of his research as the two were friends prior (before Maffeo Barberini became Pope Urban VIII) and Galileo even dedicated two books to him, but while there was much to recommend the Copernicus model it could not be conclusively proved at that time and so it was the position of the church that both the Tycho model and the Copernicus model needed to be taught together until enough evidence could be found to determine which was correct -but Galileo refused to compromise and it was that defiance which would ultimately result in his excommunication. All too often people believe it was his research, rather than his recalcitrance, which was responsible for his troubles
Thanks for saying that. I like to remind everyone the big bang theory was proposed from a priest astronomer and there still is a Vatican astronomer to this day
Well then pick H.L. Heilbron's "Galileo" and read at your leisure. Here is one short passage:
"Informed contemporaries appreciate that the reference to heresy in connection with Galileo or Copernicus had no general or theological significance. Gassendi, in 1642, observed that the decision of the cardinals, though important to the faithful, did not amount to an article of faith; Riccioli, in 1651, that heliocentrism was not a heresy; Mengoli, in 1675, that interpretations of Scripture can only bind Catholics in agreed upon in a general counsel; and Baldigiani, 1678, that everyone was aware of all these things."
He makes a good case that heliocentrism was never a central issue, neither for original dispute nor even in the minds of those alive at the time or in the following generations even if that isn't necessarily the focus of the book.
INTRODUCE THE GUESTS YOU DRUNKS!!! I am one hour in and have no idea who the guest is!!!
Who’s that japan man!?
More of these guest-free episodes please. I enjoy the occasional interview but I got into this podcast to hear the three of you.
Miguel's Japanese accent might low-key be his best. Not saying accurate, but best.
おおおおthe fifth columnって最高だよ！めっちゃ幸せになる！俺めっちゃゲイだよ！！！！
I'm dying laughing in my office. People are concerned.
My Ecuadorian husband is curious to know the meaning behind Moynihan’s declaration that Filipinos are the Ecuadorians of the Orient - is that a dig at height? He is now walking around the house with exaggerated posture to fully display his 5’9” height.
Agreed, Miguel seems wrong on this one. My Filipina friend says Filipinos are the Mexicans of Europe.
Italians are the Mexicans of Europe.
Aren’t Italians too lazy to be Mexicans? 🤔
Irish are the Mexicans of Europe I thought
Irish are the Palestinians of Europe.
Reminds me of a Community episode where an Asian lady said Thai people were the Mexicans of Asian when they were debating where to eat
Didn’t even think about the height thing. Reminds me of when my ex, whose fam is from Hong Kong, went to Shanghai with me and he was super disappointed that people weren’t closer to his height (5’5)
Got a few western Chinese mates, mostly from southern China (as is the case for the majority of the diasporas around the world), and all have had a sudden moment of horror when they visit China above the Yangtze and realise they are still short arses...
We are from Hunan and all the guys in my fam average 6’2. My female cousin is like 5’10. I’m the shrimp at 5’6 lol
Agreed. When I think of places in Latin America that stand out for having lots of short people, I think of Guatemala, Bolivia, and the Mexican Yucatán peninsula (I’m 5’5 and even I feel tall in Mérida.) I’ve never thought of Ecuadorians as being notably short for Latin America.
FINALLY! love all the guests but we all need more of the magical combination of these specific three men and a bottle.
Thank you Kmele for describing how eating your one and only meal is so delicious that you go for seconds and thirds.
That was an epic ending.
….the great and underrated Buck Owens
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0T26UcEeVDs
A question a la People magazine- do you guys really like hanging out with each other and bullshitting, or is it all for show? I mean, when the camera stops rolling do you start screaming at each other, and threaten to “ leave the band, and go solo man” (though you all already have kinda done that.). Knee deep in Christmas decorating, and mind wandering…
Finally just the guys again!!!
AI GW is hot
I’m beginning to think that Terry Crews based “college Terry” in Brooklyn 99 off of real-life Kmele.
So happy it’s just the three of you! (I even enjoy the three of you completely sober, so you could try that too, but it might not be as popular with you guys or with the rest of the Fifdom.)
I love Kmele’s undying devotion to his wife 🥹😍 you go, dude
You can tell he knows how lucky he is and it's so charming
It’s just so wholesome and I feel like it sets such a good, simple example to people for how their romantic partners should talk about them 🥹
51:48 BTW, my dad was kidnapped by Surinamese rebel leader Ronnie Brunswijk in the 1980s. My dad was soon released under international pressure. Brunswijk would later be convicted of drug trafficking and become the vice president of Suriname.
Holy moly. That's a heck of a story
I hadn't looked for news coverage before because I knew the story personally, but here's a short article: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-11-09-mn-14583-story.html
That AP story contains a surprising number of errors considering how short it is. The surname is "Rogers" without a "d," like Mr. Fred Rogers. The organization is "Mission Aviation Fellowship." Daniel is not from Des Moines, though we lived there for a few months because a supporting church was there.
That news story doesn't contain the most interesting parts IMHO. Rebel leader Ronnie Brunswijk wanted to learn to fly the captured Cessna 206 after his hired pilot left. Fortunately, my dad had just become a Certified Flight Instructor and trained Brunswijk while he was there. He says Ronnie was a quick learner, but there just wasn't enough time. Soon after my dad was released, Brunswijk flew the plane and crashed on landing. Later, a team from the mission organization was able to retrieve it and it was put back into service after repairs. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/163903
Speaking of Heliocentrism, interesting tidbit, Galileo's Copernicus model was accepted enthusiastically by the Catholic church and Urban the VIII was very supportive of his research as the two were friends prior (before Maffeo Barberini became Pope Urban VIII) and Galileo even dedicated two books to him, but while there was much to recommend the Copernicus model it could not be conclusively proved at that time and so it was the position of the church that both the Tycho model and the Copernicus model needed to be taught together until enough evidence could be found to determine which was correct -but Galileo refused to compromise and it was that defiance which would ultimately result in his excommunication. All too often people believe it was his research, rather than his recalcitrance, which was responsible for his troubles
Thanks for saying that. I like to remind everyone the big bang theory was proposed from a priest astronomer and there still is a Vatican astronomer to this day
I have never heard that explanation before. I would like to know more but it's early morning and I am having trouble forming words
Well then pick H.L. Heilbron's "Galileo" and read at your leisure. Here is one short passage:
"Informed contemporaries appreciate that the reference to heresy in connection with Galileo or Copernicus had no general or theological significance. Gassendi, in 1642, observed that the decision of the cardinals, though important to the faithful, did not amount to an article of faith; Riccioli, in 1651, that heliocentrism was not a heresy; Mengoli, in 1675, that interpretations of Scripture can only bind Catholics in agreed upon in a general counsel; and Baldigiani, 1678, that everyone was aware of all these things."
He makes a good case that heliocentrism was never a central issue, neither for original dispute nor even in the minds of those alive at the time or in the following generations even if that isn't necessarily the focus of the book.