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Jessemy's avatar

Can I get a hallelujah to be off Patreon?!?

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Matt Welch's avatar

I mean, we're still technically ON there, but not for much longer!

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Evan Besser's avatar

Glad the new venue didn't make you any less pedantic Matt ❤️

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Matt Welch's avatar

Literalism all the way down. Though impaired by alcohol at times.

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Jessemy's avatar

That place is dead to me ;)

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Brad Knollenberg's avatar

Will "Patreon" dispatches show up there until the move is fully made? Or will there just be none until launch date?

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Matt Welch's avatar

Until the move is fully made, you will experience content like you have been doing so to date -- however you get the free one (perhaps at wethefifth.com!), and then on Patreon for the subscribers-only stuff. When we port over, ALL of those prior episodes will be available (and commentable, for paying subscribers) here, and everything henceforth will be here. Though the free pod will still be everywhere you can find it now.

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Jessemy's avatar

Hey, as long as we're all loitering, what are we reading around the Ukraine invasion? Me: Anne Applebaum's Red Famine. Shockingly, she did an interview on Fresh Air that was, like, not a hatchet job.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/01/1083707197/how-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-changes-the-world-as-we-know-it

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JM's avatar

I’m finally reading Bloodlands. Red Famine is on the list as well.

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Jessemy's avatar

What a great title. Who wrote Bloodlands? Googling now...

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JM's avatar

Yes- Timothy Snyder, who has been criticized on tfc, although it seems that they all regard Bloodlands to be thoroughly worthwhile. I agree that it’s a great title. The contents of the book are brutal. It details events in Eastern Europe (roughly 1933-1945) - covering all the atrocities committed by the Nazis AND the Soviets. Ukraine, Poland, Belarus and others were caught it the middle of these two shitbag regimes and the body count is absolutely shocking. Brutal read.

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Jessemy's avatar

I know! They really got the worst of both extremes. #horseshoe

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Jessemy's avatar

Thanks Katherine Mangu Ward for introducing me to the image of an ideological horseshoe! #ourladyofreason

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Jessemy's avatar

Timothy Snyder, it looks like.

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Dan Gruszka's avatar

Finishing up "Stalin's War" after the MM podcast with the author. Next up is "Post War" by Tony Judt. Found this one after Welch posted a number of books in this vein.

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Debra Padula's avatar

great read, learned so much as usual!

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Jessemy's avatar

You have the exact same taste in history books as my husband. Off to shop his bookshelf!

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Jake S.'s avatar

The Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine by Serhii Plokhy. I’m only a few chapters in, but so far it’s a well written account of the history of the region from the Greeks to the current conflict.

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Jessemy's avatar

Thanks, Jake! Where did you find out about it?

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Jake S.'s avatar

Michael had mentioned it on a recent episode, so I looked at reviews and there seems to be a consensus that the book is a relatively unbiased account of the history. The revised edition actually includes a chapter about the current conflict, so the book is highly relevant. Definitely give it a try if you are interested in the historical roots of the conflict.

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sam barker's avatar

Erika’s book Sovietstan is really good also

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Dan Gruszka's avatar

Thanks for the tip, this looks awesome. Will be looking for this to come out on Audible!

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hector's avatar

HALLELUJAH

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Brad Knollenberg's avatar

Hello new Fifdom Substackers! Ileana and I interviewed Matt on the Fifth Column Community Pod about the move. Worth a listen while we wait for things to propagate here. :D

https://twitter.com/FifthCommunity/status/1510728982014038017?s=20&t=weoPGx0ptYWA_T5AGbQFpQ

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Evan Besser's avatar

Oh Em Gee!! Actual comment threading. A technological breakthrough!!

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Andrew Whitford's avatar

Wasn’t sure if moving from Patreon to Substack required passport and shots. Got both if needed

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Darren Henderson's avatar

Nice move. We would follow you guys to Dabiq if that’s what it took to hear you. God bless. More Dreyfuss, please!

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vexxed af's avatar

Great to hear MCM mention Shane Gillis. My 3 favorite podcasts are TFC, Matt and Shanes Secret Podcast, and Tim Dillon. Damn, I was JUST in NYC. If I had known Moynihan, Coleman, AND Shane would be in the same building I would've dropped all other plans. Fuck.

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H.E. Negash's avatar

respect. 'bout time. welcome.

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Michael Clardy (@mcp627)'s avatar

First Substack I have actually made an effort to subscribe to, well done y'all!

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Todd T DeVoe's avatar

Welcome to the Substack Community. It has been a pleasure being on this platform (The Emergency Management Network) I know you will all enjoy your experience here. Again welcome to the community.

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Jonathan's avatar

Happy to switch over to Substack with you guys! 🛂💉🇺🇸

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Peter's avatar

Nice place you got here

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Chris Jenkins's avatar

Welcome to Substack, fellas.

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Brad's avatar

There's an account at thefifthcolumn.substack.com also created a couple days ago. Did you claim it to beat the squatters or are your lazy doppelgangers keeping their options open?

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Matt Welch's avatar

Thanks for the heads-up.

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Michael Chavez's avatar

Only people with their shots are allowed on Substack

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Tom Bricker's avatar

I have plenty of tequila and whiskey, so let’s start taking shots!

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Dima's avatar

Really happy for you guys. To borrow an expression from my people (and Kmele's son), mazel tov!

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Mary Peret's avatar

Doing a bit of a happy dance to see you off the non-user-friendly platform and onto Substack! You never read my mail anymore so I just pretend it's because Patreon's messaging system was so whack rather than admitting to myself that my emails just aren't that smart or interesting ;)

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Matt Welch's avatar

A lot of times it's just luck-of-the-draw in terms of timing (like, tonight we're supposed to record a Patreon, and so we'll read from emails sent over the past 72 hours.....).

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Mary Peret's avatar

I'll be in the corner, smoking my vape, watching the shenanigans.

(Please say you got the reference or I'll just be drunk and embarrassed)

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LawZag's avatar

What’s that? You’re doing a live Zoom podcast for Patreons tonight as a thank you and turn of the Patreon to Substack chapter?

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Matt Welch's avatar

I appreciate the attempt! But we'll be doing some stuff soonish.

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