He first came on to talk about a suicide in the porn industry. Then he came back to help us explore the origins of our roiling culture wars. And now Jon Ronson returns for his third one-on-one conversation with Michael Moynihan, this time to discuss The Debutante, his brilliant new podcast about high society neo-Nazis, bad swastika tattoos, Throbbing Gristle, the Oklahoma City bombing, a dodgy German named “Andy,” and what a thirty-year-old story can teach us about “threats to democracy.”
Note from Moynihan: I twice say that Waco: Rules of Engagement won the 1998 Academy Award for best documentary. This is incorrect. It was nominated but didn’t win.
Also: If you need an added incentive to download The Debutante, this clip from the first episode—which makes me laugh very, very hard every time I listen to it—should do the trick:
Members Only #162 - Jon Ronson on Neo-Nazi Debutantes, the Oklahoma City Bombing, and "Platforming" Alex Jones